The Criminal Mind by Peyton Quinn

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Peyton Quinn: The Criminal Mind Parts 1 & 2

Part 1:

Despite the intensity of the armored assailant fight scenarios at our RMCAT Training Center, our instruction is not limited to how to punch, kick or throw. In order to truly teach self defense in today’s world I strongly feel that no self defense program can limit it’s instruction to physical technique skills alone.

This is why I have interviewed scores of convicted killers, muggers, rapists, armed robbers and drug pushers over the last few years. We use this information at RMCAT in designing some elements of our self-defense program. Please consider that it is these criminals that are the ones that commit most of the criminal assaults and these are thus the people whose thought process you need to know something about. Armed with that knowledge you have a far better chance to avoid them and to physically defend yourself from them too. The criminal mind does not operate quite like that of the decent and socialized people that you work out with in the dojo.

At RMCAT we recently finished editing a videotape (Real Criminals, Real Crimes) of these convict interviews with a small group of convicted felons some of whom were multiple killers too. Perhaps the first thing I should mention here is that all these interviews took place out of prison as even most murderers eventually are returned to the streets.

Now, having said that the criminal predator’s mind does not work just quite like yours or mine, let me also point out a significant qualification here too. When I worked as bouncer I saw a commonality in thinking between the people who bullied and punched out others in the barroom and the grade school and high school bullies I had dealt with in my school-boy years.

Understanding the modus operandi of these barroom thugs in my work as a bouncer had ultimately allowed me to avoid most of them in the first place. Yet, I still got many of them to behave as required and without the use of violence. Later in life when I began interviewing the convicts I saw this continuum of behavioral thinking again. Indeed, I would say that if a person was too successful as a schoolyard bully then he sometimes continued and escalated this behavior until he succeeded in ending up in prison.

Finally, especially looking back on my experience in the business world with a software development company that I co-founded in the 80’s (hindsight is often 20/20) I was forced to see that it was mainly the intensity, cruelty and consequences of predator like thinking that differentiated some of the things I dealt with in the boardroom with what I had dealt with in the barroom. It was clear to me that these behavioral mechanics of predatory thinking were simply greatly distilled and amplified in the crucible of the prisons.

My point here is that understanding these predatory thought patterns has application and utility for you far beyond physical self-defense against the criminal element. Knowledge is indeed power. On the street or perhaps even at the office, if you act like a victim you will likely to be treated like one. We will be looking more specifically at what these convicts told me that they looked for in selecting a victim and also what they might see that would make them pass on someone as a suitable victim too. But I will have to save that for part two of this article. I want to close this installment with a story about a RMCAT student who is a fairly young, slightly built and somewhat passive Chinese American living in Brooklyn.

He wrote to me explaining that for the last three years he had been hospitalized about every 4 to 6 months from racially motivated street assaults. These attacks had left him with some permanent disabilities too. Perhaps needless to say my first advice to him was to move into another neighborhood. He was a very meek individual when I first meet him. He walked with his head down, he would seldom make any eye contact with you and his voice was so low I had to ask him to speak up so I could understand him. But, I saw all this greatly improve over the course of the weekend’s training. His physical fighting skill was still relatively pitiful at that point though.

After he left the training he wrote and emailed me regularly. He was amazed to see that he had now gone a whole year without being attacked and hospitalized! He had a few close calls but by asserting himself a bit he had avoided them from going to physical assaults. To me it was very apparent why things had changed for him. Through his understanding of the predatory and bully mind he had learned how to not to look like such an attractive victim. Next month we will examine how to do that and how predators think in more detail. Stay alert and stay safe,

Peyton Quinn



Part 2:

In Part One of this article we pointed out that a potential criminal assailant will be far more likely to attack someone when they have a passive victim. We presented the example of a young man who seldom made eye contact with anyone, who spoke in a very low voice and who shuffled his feet as he walked with his head down. Being smaller than average and a racial minority in an ethnic neighborhood he had been assaulted many times by bullies and he was hospitalized from these attacks.

After a weekend of scenario based training at RMCAT he improved significantly and this made him a less attractive victim. He then went the longest period in his life without of being attacked after this training. Now realize, he still could not really fight effectively, he had just became more "assertive" and he showed less obvious fear when confronted. This man is a fairly extreme example of the fact that how we deport ourselves can determine if we are selected for assault. Once again, the criminal is looking for a victim and not a fight.

We interviewed a number of convicted felons (whose crimes ranged from forcible rape to murder and armed robbery) and asked them what they looked for in selecting a victim. We also asked them what behavior they might observe that would discourage them from selecting a person as a victim. Though greatly compressed here is the essence of what they told us.

Most of them would make some sort of intelligence gathering effort to see what the state of mind was of their potential victim. In my first book I referred to this as the "Interview". For the bully types this would most often consist of some sort of verbal abuse or challenge. An example might be a very surly "What are you doing here?" or "What are you looking at?" Of course their language would be more profane and colorful than what we choose to print here.

These predators would then see if their candidate for assault showed (1) denial, that is if they pretended not see or hear the threat and simply ignored it, perhaps hoping it would just go away ? and /or (2) Did they display other obvious signs of fear like not making any eye contact at all, or if they replied verbally did their voice betray their fear and uncertainty?. Indeed, their initial selection of victim potential even before this active interview stage was made among those who initially showed the more passive behavior.

Among the armed robbers we would hear thing like this: (1) "Well if before I even get into the store the clerk behind the counter sees me and makes eye contact, then I’m out of there" or (2) "I’ll ask him some irrelevant question like ‘Do you have this kind of beer?’ even though I see it right their in the cooler. His voice tells me if he’s scared or if maybe he already knows what’s up and he’s prepared to deal with it, or (3) If the guy stays behind one certain area of the counter, like he may have a gun there or maybe even in his hand already behind that counter, well then I’m gone. I’m not there to wrestle over no gun or to fight, I’m just there for the money and if I can’t get it easy there then I’ll just go down the road where I can".

Armed robbers differ in some ways from bully types. The armed robbers are more business like and also often more easily deterred than just "bullies". The bully just wants to make himself feel better by beating and humiliating another person, but for the most part they still look for passive game and they do not want a fighting contest of any kind.

As one person told us " …so I have him down on the ground and I make him say stuff to me like I’m sorry’ or ‘Uncle’ or something like that? It shows that I’m not such a ‘loser’, if I can control this guy, …that at least I’m better than him, I want to degrade him and that makes me look better to the other people in the bar or whatever"

Hence, we see that they are both looking for easy prey in either case, be it the armed robbery or the bully who attacks others in the bar or even in a street setting. Let me add, this is basically always the case with forcible rapists too. Rapist will very seldom choose a woman who walks with an assertive posture and who appears to be very alert.

But does this mean that we should try to act "tough" around such people? No, it certainly does not in my estimation. For one thing it is most often a real mistake to be provoking or challenging to this cretins. We must therefore clearly recognize the difference between being assertive and being aggressive or challenging.

The predator is very much aware that he can become prey too. This creates an exaggerated sense or an extreme need in him to be feared and to not be disrespected or "dissed". One convict we interviewed talked about jumping over the counter at a McDonalds to attack a cook who simply refused to re-scramble his eggs the way he wanted. In his criminal/predator mind this was being "dissed" and so it had to be dealt with immediately. So how do you think that predator might respond if you coldly told him ,"just get lost dirt bag!"

Yes, some can be scared off by such a display of "bravado", but this is most often tactically foolish to gamble on. It is also just not necessary either. One would do better by loudly and with some assertive projection demand that him to "Back off man! Just back off!" You might not see how different these two approaches are, but to the predator’s mind they are "night and day". "Back off!" most often is interpreted as "Just let me be, I am prepared to fight if need be but it does not have to go there". This way the aggressor has an honorable exit and is not being directly "dissed". But if you say, "get lost dirt bag!" or anything along those lines, to him this means " Your just trash and not a man so I don’t have to worry about you. You’re afraid or incapable of really backing up your threat and so I can scare you off with just a few barks".

Be assertive, not confrontational or even disrespectful. Make eye contact but do not try to "stare him down" in any way. Let him see that you are very much aware of him and his intentions and what is happening around you. Project your verbal boundary strongly, loudly and very assertively.

Of course sometimes it will take more than this to defend yourself, but even these harden convicts told us that such actions will sometimes motivate them to find more "passive game".

Peyton Quinn

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